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We should kick off tests in a random order. This will flush out any interdependencies per test. However the order should be reproducible to debug such interdependencies. Ruby's minitest has a --seed option which can be set on the CLI to control the order. A random seed is used if no value is provided and it's reported in the output.
Starting tests in a random order within a test file is the easiest place to start. Presumably .serial would run in source order.
We could consider running test files in a random order as well, though they're already somewhat random because each test file runs in its own process, and because each test file runs in its own process it'd be hard to run them in a deterministic order. So probably best not to even try.
We kick off the tests in source order though. The asynchronous ones will start to interleave but synchronous tests won't. And synchronous tests will block asynchronous ones that started earlier.
"I thought it was a pretty neat idea. I really like that he saves the execution order when tests fail. That way things stay reproduceable until fixed." - @jamestalmage about the above.
One thing that will be difficult about this when it comes to AVA, will be the fact that there's no good way to enforce ordering across multiple processes. That would only cause problems if multiple test files are accessing the same system resource (disk, database, etc). I don't think that is an easy problem to solve, and is probably best just ignored initially. Random ordering per file would provide a lot of value on it's own.
The asynchronous ones will start to interleave but synchronous tests won't.
Agreed. Additionally, most asynchronous tests will currently interleave in a predictable/identical way for each test run. Only async tests with random delays (aka: those that access system resources) will end up interleaving randomly.
I'd still like to see it within AVA but the implementation has to be pretty good, now that it's possible to built this on top of AVA for most scenarios.
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vadimdemedes commentedon Mar 3, 2016
I believe it is already being done, as we start all tests at the same time and running them in parallel.
In a way, order of running/output is random, because it depends on the execution speed of the test.
novemberborn commentedon Mar 3, 2016
We kick off the tests in source order though. The asynchronous ones will start to interleave but synchronous tests won't. And synchronous tests will block asynchronous ones that started earlier.
sindresorhus commentedon Mar 3, 2016
Yes, we discussed this a while ago and agreed it would be very useful, but not a priority for 1.0.0.
https://github.com/bahmutov/rocha is a good inspiration.
jamestalmage commentedon Mar 3, 2016
One thing that will be difficult about this when it comes to AVA, will be the fact that there's no good way to enforce ordering across multiple processes. That would only cause problems if multiple test files are accessing the same system resource (disk, database, etc). I don't think that is an easy problem to solve, and is probably best just ignored initially. Random ordering per file would provide a lot of value on it's own.
Agreed. Additionally, most asynchronous tests will currently interleave in a predictable/identical way for each test run. Only async tests with random delays (aka: those that access system resources) will end up interleaving randomly.
novemberborn commentedon Mar 25, 2016
This is a neat approach to finding which tests in which order cause a failure: http://make.bettermistak.es/2016/03/05/rspecs-bisect/
sindresorhus commentedon Oct 10, 2017
I think we should still shuffle the glob-resolved array of files just to be sure.
ORESoftware commentedon Oct 10, 2017
@novemberborn sounds like you'd have to save the run order to disk for every run
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mighty-phoenix commentedon Mar 23, 2022
Hey!
Is this issue still up for grabs(Issuehunt bouny)?
Thanks! @wprater @novemberborn
novemberborn commentedon Mar 27, 2022
@mighty-phoenix it is, though this behavior could be achieved using the
sortTestFiles()feature in 4.1.0.I'd still like to see it within AVA but the implementation has to be pretty good, now that it's possible to built this on top of AVA for most scenarios.
rovidev95 commentedon Jul 3, 2026