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Shnatsel opened this issue Nov 5, 2021 · 2 comments
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zeroize: add a big fat warning that it's a low-level primitive #659

Shnatsel opened this issue Nov 5, 2021 · 2 comments

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Shnatsel commented Nov 5, 2021

zeroize is a low-level crate and does not guard e.g. against implicitly copying the value. However, people sometimes assume that it does: https://benma.github.io/2020/10/16/rust-zeroize-move.html

While secrecy crate is recommended in the docs, it's buried below the sales pitch. Perhaps a big warning right at the top that zeroize is a low-level crate and most people should use secrecy instead would prevent such misunderstanding.

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tarcieri commented Nov 5, 2021

Could you provide a complete blurb you'd like to see added, and make suggestions as to where it should go relative to the other parts of the documentation? Possibly open a PR?

Much of what you're describing is already covered in the already voluminous existing documentation, however it's buried at the bottom and it sounds like you'd like it closer to the top?

vsrinivas pushed a commit to vsrinivas/fuchsia that referenced this issue Apr 11, 2022
It would be dangerous for Fuchsia engineers to rely on zeroize for
enforcing security invariants, but it is difficult to remove it from
our build graph entirely (see alternatives).

**Background**

zeroize can't handle a variety of cases like a dynamic
buffer which was reallocated partway through writing a secret
into it, or a buffer with a secret small enough for the
containing buffer to implement Copy.

The guarantees it attempts to provide are implemented by
inhibiting compiler optimizations that would eliminate
dead stores, since to LLVM what zeroize does looks like writing to
memory that no one will read. A new LLVM release can always optimize
zeroize out of the resulting binary, meaning that not even a best-
effort attempt to conceal secrets would be made.

Some evidence from upstream that its guarantees can be confusing:

RustCrypto/utils#659
RustCrypto/utils#702

And that they're difficult to implement without invoking UB:

RustCrypto/utils#653

**Alternatives**

*** (1) Make zeroize optional in RustCrypto crates ***

We could fork the crates which depend on zeroize locally and work
with upstream to release versions where the dependency is optional
with the goal of unforking once they were released.

Making the dependency optional requires cargo's weak and namespaced
deps features that were just stabilized in 1.60, while RustCrypto maintains
an MSRV of 1.41, released in February 2020. Bumping MSRV is a
significant action for a widely-used Rust crate, and we should not
expect maintainers to do so lightly or to be able to bump to 1.60 any
time soon.

*** (2) Fork zeroize to remove UB and restrict visibility ***

We could add support to cargo-gnaw for configurable visibility limits
that would allow our transitive RustCrypto crates to use zeroize but not
for it to be added as a dep within the main build graph.

This approach also forks zeroize, but instead of removing all of its
functionality we would fix any UB in the library. From upstream issues
its not clear this can be done in the current semantics of Rust. Even
if it were possible, it will be difficult to be certain we've addressed
all possible UB and this approach is ultimately higher effort than
removing all of the crate's code.

Fixed: 96317
Change-Id: Ia5419d3cf73ef7f971e8a72a56e8ece495078395
Reviewed-on: https://fuchsia-review.googlesource.com/c/fuchsia/+/667952
Reviewed-by: Tyler Mandry <[email protected]>
Reviewed-by: Chris Palmer <[email protected]>
Commit-Queue: Adam Perry <[email protected]>
Fuchsia-Auto-Submit: Adam Perry <[email protected]>
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I think we can close this issue. We will be happy to receive documentation improvement PRs.

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