Podman machine ls incomplete for different provider types

[KnightOL]

Issue Description

I created two Podman machines VM using separate provider type:

1. Machine 1 - Libkrun
2. Machine 2 - Apple Hypervisor

I used machine 1 for most of my container workloads, after creating machine 2, I am unable to run podman machine ssh machine1 successfully.
Also running podman machine ls on the CLI , I can only see machine 2, despite it not running

Steps to reproduce the issue

Steps to reproduce the issue
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Describe the results you received

Describe the results you received

Describe the results you expected

I expect that I should be able to see both machines listed and it is showing on Podman desktop

podman info output

Client:
  APIVersion: 5.7.1
  BuildOrigin: pkginstaller
  Built: 1765378682
  BuiltTime: Wed Dec 10 15:58:02 2025
  GitCommit: f845d14e941889ba4c071f35233d09b29d363c75
  GoVersion: go1.25.5
  Os: darwin
  OsArch: darwin/arm64
  Version: 5.7.1
host:
  arch: arm64
  buildahVersion: 1.42.2
  cgroupControllers:
  - cpu
  - io
  - memory
  - pids
  cgroupManager: systemd
  cgroupVersion: v2
  conmon:
    package: conmon-2.1.13-2.fc43.aarch64
    path: /usr/bin/conmon
    version: 'conmon version 2.1.13, commit: '
  cpuUtilization:
    idlePercent: 99.89
    systemPercent: 0.07
    userPercent: 0.04
  cpus: 15
  databaseBackend: sqlite
  distribution:
    distribution: fedora
    variant: coreos
    version: "43"
  emulatedArchitectures:
  - linux/386
  - linux/amd64
  - linux/arm64be
  eventLogger: journald
  freeLocks: 2048
  hostname: localhost.localdomain
  idMappings:
    gidmap:
    - container_id: 0
      host_id: 1000
      size: 1
    - container_id: 1
      host_id: 100000
      size: 1000000
    uidmap:
    - container_id: 0
      host_id: 501
      size: 1
    - container_id: 1
      host_id: 100000
      size: 1000000
  kernel: 6.17.7-300.fc43.aarch64
  linkmode: dynamic
  logDriver: journald
  memFree: 20218765312
  memTotal: 20909318144
  networkBackend: netavark
  networkBackendInfo:
    backend: netavark
    dns:
      package: aardvark-dns-1.17.0-1.fc43.aarch64
      path: /usr/libexec/podman/aardvark-dns
      version: aardvark-dns 1.17.0
    package: netavark-1.17.1-1.fc43.aarch64
    path: /usr/libexec/podman/netavark
    version: netavark 1.17.1
  ociRuntime:
    name: crun
    package: crun-1.24-1.fc43.aarch64
    path: /usr/bin/crun
    version: |-
      crun version 1.24
      commit: 54693209039e5e04cbe3c8b1cd5fe2301219f0a1
      rundir: /run/user/501/crun
      spec: 1.0.0
      +SYSTEMD +SELINUX +APPARMOR +CAP +SECCOMP +EBPF +CRIU +LIBKRUN +WASM:wasmedge +YAJL
  os: linux
  pasta:
    executable: /usr/sbin/pasta
    package: passt-0^20250919.g623dbf6-1.fc43.aarch64
    version: |
      pasta 0^20250919.g623dbf6-1.fc43.aarch64-pasta
      Copyright Red Hat
      GNU General Public License, version 2 or later
        <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html>
      This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
      There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
  remoteSocket:
    exists: true
    path: unix:///run/user/501/podman/podman.sock
  rootlessNetworkCmd: pasta
  security:
    apparmorEnabled: false
    capabilities: CAP_CHOWN,CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE,CAP_FOWNER,CAP_FSETID,CAP_KILL,CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE,CAP_SETFCAP,CAP_SETGID,CAP_SETPCAP,CAP_SETUID,CAP_SYS_CHROOT
    rootless: true
    seccompEnabled: true
    seccompProfilePath: /usr/share/containers/seccomp.json
    selinuxEnabled: true
  serviceIsRemote: true
  slirp4netns:
    executable: /usr/sbin/slirp4netns
    package: slirp4netns-1.3.1-3.fc43.aarch64
    version: |-
      slirp4netns version 1.3.1
      commit: e5e368c4f5db6ae75c2fce786e31eef9da6bf236
      libslirp: 4.9.1
      SLIRP_CONFIG_VERSION_MAX: 6
      libseccomp: 2.6.0
  swapFree: 4294963200
  swapTotal: 4294963200
  uptime: 0h 45m 22.00s
  variant: v8
plugins:
  authorization: null
  log:
  - k8s-file
  - none
  - passthrough
  - journald
  network:
  - bridge
  - macvlan
  - ipvlan
  volume:
  - local
registries:
  search:
  - docker.io
store:
  configFile: /var/home/core/.config/containers/storage.conf
  containerStore:
    number: 0
    paused: 0
    running: 0
    stopped: 0
  graphDriverName: overlay
  graphOptions: {}
  graphRoot: /var/home/core/.local/share/containers/storage
  graphRootAllocated: 53082042368
  graphRootUsed: 14318993408
  graphStatus:
    Backing Filesystem: xfs
    Native Overlay Diff: "true"
    Supports d_type: "true"
    Supports shifting: "false"
    Supports volatile: "true"
    Using metacopy: "false"
  imageCopyTmpDir: /var/tmp
  imageStore:
    number: 4
  runRoot: /run/user/501/containers
  transientStore: false
  volumePath: /var/home/core/.local/share/containers/storage/volumes
version:
  APIVersion: 5.7.1
  BuildOrigin: 'Copr: packit/containers-podman-27732'
  Built: 1765238400
  BuiltTime: Tue Dec  9 01:00:00 2025
  GitCommit: f845d14e941889ba4c071f35233d09b29d363c75
  GoVersion: go1.25.4 X:nodwarf5
  Os: linux
  OsArch: linux/arm64
  Version: 5.7.1

Podman in a container

No

Privileged Or Rootless

Rootless

Upstream Latest Release

Yes

Additional environment details

Additional environment details

Additional information

The workaround I was able to get to work was to:
cd ~/.local/share/containers/podman/machine/
podman system connection ls - to get the port allocated for the Libkrun machine

ssh -i machine -p 54732 core@localhost

[mheon]

In Podman 5.x, it's not really intended to have multiple VMs with different providers at the same time. Almost all commands will only be usable on VMs of the current provider. Can you see the second VM if you use --all-providers?

This will change in Podman 6.0, releasing this spring.

[KnightOL]

Yes, I can see the second VM with the --all-providers option but the issue here is the missing VM is actually the default VM, running and its creation predates the second VM with Apple Hypervisor.

However since you said it will change in 6.0. I will cope with including the extra options.

Thanks