Revision sets to True when deploy has the minimum number #15890

houshengbo · 2025-05-15T21:29:12Z

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Revision is set to healthy, when the deployment has the minimum number of replicas running and ready.

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Revision is set to healthy, when the deployment has the minimum number of replicas running and ready.

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dprotaso · 2025-05-16T15:34:14Z

If min-scale is involved then I think the issue might be in a different place - more specifically the PodAutoscaler.

For example PodAutoscalerConditionScaleTargetInitialized should only be 'True' when we've reached min-scale.

serving/pkg/apis/autoscaling/v1alpha1/pa_lifecycle.go

Lines 33 to 38 in 8a39d5e

    
           var podCondSet = apis.NewLivingConditionSet( 
        
           	PodAutoscalerConditionActive, 
        
           	PodAutoscalerConditionScaleTargetInitialized, 
        
           	PodAutoscalerConditionSKSReady, 
        
           )

We mark the revision ready here

serving/pkg/apis/serving/v1/revision_lifecycle.go

Lines 196 to 203 in 8a39d5e

    
           // Don't mark the resources available, if deployment status already determined 
        
           // it isn't so. 
        
           if ps.IsScaleTargetInitialized() && !resUnavailable { 
        
           	// Precondition for PA being initialized is SKS being active and 
        
           	// that implies that |service.endpoints| > 0. 
        
           	rs.MarkResourcesAvailableTrue() 
        
           	rs.MarkContainerHealthyTrue() 
        
           }

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dprotaso · 2025-05-16T15:36:30Z

Another thing we should do is update the e2e test to surface the issue you found - eg. fail if Ready=True but ReplicaReadyCount < MinScale

https://github.com/knative/serving/blob/main/test/e2e/minscale_readiness_test.go

houshengbo · 2025-05-16T16:07:20Z

@dprotaso Do we allow this situation to happen?
Revision is set to true even if there is only one pod, even if the minscale is larger than one.

If the revision is set to true, I guess traffic is assigned and shifted to the new revisiosn, and old revision starts to terminate(This is how we run into the issue). If deployment is running with pods less than the minscale, revision availability should NOT be set to true.

I will check on the podautoscaler part and the test cases.

dprotaso · 2025-05-16T16:11:30Z

Revision is set to true even if there is only one pod, even if the minscale is larger than one.

No - because I would expect PodAutoscalerConditionScaleTargetInitialized to be False until minReady=minScale

When that condition is False then PodAutoscaler.Ready Condition should be False as well because it's a child condition of that LivingConditionSet.

houshengbo · 2025-05-16T17:06:41Z

rev.Status.MarkContainerHealthyTrue()

This line was added into pkg/reconciler/revision/reconcile_resources.go, because we would like the changes of the deployment resource itself to be reflected in the revision.

Per the PodAutoscaler, the logic was correct as in kpa:

https://github.com/knative/serving/blob/main/pkg/reconciler/autoscaling/kpa/kpa.go#L274

and in hpa

https://github.com/knative/serving/blob/main/pkg/reconciler/autoscaling/hpa/hpa.go#L102

so the PodAutoscaler is running as we expected for both kpa and hpa. They both check if the minscale is reached before setting the rev status.

houshengbo · 2025-05-16T21:17:28Z

/retest

houshengbo · 2025-05-17T01:39:29Z

/retest

houshengbo · 2025-05-17T13:05:10Z

/retest

houshengbo · 2025-05-17T14:39:47Z

/retest

dprotaso · 2025-05-18T19:08:20Z

/test istio-latest-no-mesh_serving_main

dprotaso · 2025-05-18T22:14:20Z

curling github for a file is getting a HTTP 429 rate limit

/test istio-latest-no-mesh_serving_main

houshengbo · 2025-05-19T16:09:53Z

/test istio-latest-no-mesh_serving_main

houshengbo · 2025-05-19T17:28:07Z

@dprotaso I tried multiple times to make sure there is no race condition. The test results seem to be good so far.

dprotaso

I've been trying to run the changes to the TestMinScale locally against v1.18.0 (that should have the broken scaling). I'm finding the test as is not failing reliably.

I think we need to change the test to check that the prior revision isn't scaled down until after the second revision is ready.

dprotaso · 2025-05-22T22:21:53Z

test/e2e/minscale_readiness_test.go

+	if replicas := *revision.Status.ActualReplicas; replicas < minScale {
+		t.Fatalf("Container is indicated as healthy. Expected actual replicas for revision %v to be %v but got %v", revision.Name, minScale, replicas)
+	}


I'm hitting this condition when running locally against a broken serving release. I wouldn't expect that so it makes me think there's a delay when ActualReplicas is updated.

This fails sometimes when scaling up the first revision or second. Because of that I don't think we can reliably use this value in the test.

This is probably a separate issue to the one you're addressing

This check is also duplicated on line 117

dprotaso · 2025-05-22T22:42:08Z

One other observation I have - I think as part of the test you should introduce a readiness delay on the second revision.

What I'm seeing happen locally is the new revisions spin up instantaneously because of the image being pre-cached on the node. Thus there isn't an observed early termination of the first revision.

yuzisun · 2025-06-01T20:30:39Z

@houshengbo @dprotaso where are we on this ?

dprotaso · 2025-06-05T02:26:05Z

I dug into this more - I think we should fix PropagateAutoscalerStatus

serving/pkg/apis/serving/v1/revision_lifecycle.go

Line 172 in 794c02f

    
           func (rs *RevisionStatus) PropagateAutoscalerStatus(ps *autoscalingv1alpha1.PodAutoscalerStatus) {

When we have no pods ready we end up with a PA Status of

status:
  actualScale: 0
  conditions:
  - lastTransitionTime: "2025-06-05T01:42:44Z"
    message: Requests to the target are being buffered as resources are provisioned.
    reason: Queued
    status: Unknown
    type: Active
  - lastTransitionTime: "2025-06-05T01:42:44Z"
    message: Requests to the target are being buffered as resources are provisioned.
    reason: Queued
    status: Unknown
    type: Ready
  - lastTransitionTime: "2025-06-05T01:42:44Z"
    message: K8s Service is not ready
    reason: NotReady
    status: Unknown
    type: SKSReady
  - lastTransitionTime: "2025-06-05T01:42:44Z"
    status: Unknown
    type: ScaleTargetInitialized
  desiredScale: 3
  metricsServiceName: revision-failure-00002-private
  observedGeneration: 1
  serviceName: revision-failure-00002

When 1 replica is ready (out of 3) we have the PA status

status:
  actualScale: 1
  conditions:
  - lastTransitionTime: "2025-06-05T01:42:44Z"
    message: Requests to the target are being buffered as resources are provisioned.
    reason: Queued
    status: Unknown
    type: Active
  - lastTransitionTime: "2025-06-05T01:42:44Z"
    message: Requests to the target are being buffered as resources are provisioned.
    reason: Queued
    status: Unknown
    type: Ready
  - lastTransitionTime: "2025-06-05T01:44:09Z"
    status: "True"
    type: SKSReady
  - lastTransitionTime: "2025-06-05T01:42:44Z"
    status: Unknown
    type: ScaleTargetInitialized
  desiredScale: 3
  metricsServiceName: revision-failure-00002-private
  observedGeneration: 1
  serviceName: revision-failure-00002

So PropagateAutoscalerStatus doesn't handle the case where SKSReady=True and ScaleTargetInitialized=Unknown - it seems like we should set RevisionConditionResourcesAvailable=Unknown given that

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dprotaso · 2025-09-22T20:24:28Z

I have the alternate fix in this PR - #16094

Revision sets to True when deploy has the minimum number

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