python 3.13.1 giving import error over nfs [windows]

[Ganeshkumhar1]

Bug report

Bug description:

I built python 3.13.1 from source using MSVC , using call build.bat -e -v -p x64 , had no issues in building . After building it I installed numpy 2.1.0 whl from pypi. then I tried using this python over nfs on remote host I am getting numpy import error -

ImportError: DLL load failed while importing _multiarray_umath: The parameter is incorrect.

same set of steps works for me with python3.12.6. seems something is changed in 3.13.1 when trying import over nfs.
could someone please help As I am unable to figure out.

raised issue with numpy dev as well numpy/numpy#28216 , but it seems issue with the way how new python is working. any help is appreciated.

CPython versions tested on:

3.13

Operating systems tested on:

Windows

Linked PRs

• gh-129333: fix import error over nfs on Windows #129616

[Ganeshkumhar1]

can this be reviewed please.

[zooba]

The actual numpy issue is numpy/numpy#28216

And the relevant information (missing from this report) seems to be:

on 3.12.6 I get exact paths -

stdlib: \\<NFS_DIR>\python\Lib
platstdlib: \\<NFS_DIR>\python\Lib
purelib: \\<NFS_DIR>\python\Lib\site-packages
platlib: \\<NFS_DIR>\python\Lib\site-packages
include: \\<NFS_DIR>\python\Include
platinclude: \\<NFS_DIR>\python\Include
scripts: \\<NFS_DIR>\python\Scripts
data: \\<NFS_DIR>\python

on 3.13.1 I get \?\UNC\ added to these paths -

stdlib: \\?\UNC\<NFS_DIR>\python\Lib
platstdlib: \\?\UNC\<NFS_DIR>\python\Lib
purelib: \\?\UNC\<NFS_DIR>\python\Lib\site-packages
platlib: \\?\UNC\<NFS_DIR>\python\Lib\site-packages
include: \\?\UNC\<NFS_DIR>\python\Include
platinclude: \\?\UNC\<NFS_DIR>\python\Include
scripts: \\?\UNC\<NFS_DIR>\python\Scripts
data: \\?\UNC\<NFS_DIR>\python

@barneygale @nineteendo Does this ring a bell to either of you? Did we change something that would add \\?\UNC here? Or fail to remove it?

[ChrisDenton]

Or fail to remove it?

I would just note that getpath_realpath only attempts to strip \\?\ from drive paths and doesn't handle \\?\UNC at all:

cpython/Modules/getpath.c

Lines 544 to 554 in 180ee43

	if (0 == wcsncmp(p, L"\\\\?\\", 4)) {
	if (GetFileAttributesW(&p[4]) != INVALID_FILE_ATTRIBUTES) {
	p += 4;
	len -= 4;
	}
	}
	if (CompareStringOrdinal(path, (int)pathlen, p, len, TRUE) == CSTR_EQUAL) {
	result = Py_NewRef(pathobj);
	} else {
	result = PyUnicode_FromWideChar(p, len);
	}

Whereas the realpath in ntpath handles both cases:

cpython/Lib/ntpath.py

Lines 745 to 754 in 180ee43

	# For UNC paths, the prefix will actually be \\?\UNC\
	# Handle that case as well.
	if path.startswith(unc_prefix):
	spath = new_unc_prefix + path[len(unc_prefix):]
	else:
	spath = path[len(prefix):]
	# Ensure that the non-prefixed path resolves to the same path
	try:
	if _getfinalpathname(spath) == path:
	path = spath

[nineteendo]

Does this ring a bell to either of you? Did we change something that would add \?\UNC here? Or fail to remove it?

I don't recall changing UNC prefixes, but let me do a bisect first.

[nineteendo]

I keep getting this warning when I try to build any version and it refuses to launch python:

C:\Users\wanne\cpython\PCbuild\python.vcxproj(134,5): warning MSB3073: The command "setlocal
C:\Users\wanne\cpython\PCbuild\python.vcxproj(134,5): warning MSB3073: set PYTHONPATH=C:\Users\wanne\cpython\Lib
C:\Users\wanne\cpython\PCbuild\python.vcxproj(134,5): warning MSB3073: "C:\Users\wanne\cpython\PCbuild\amd64\python.exe" "C: 
\Users\wanne\cpython\PC\validate_ucrtbase.py" ucrtbase" exited with code -1073741819.

[nineteendo]

Looks like it started emitting this error in 500b0f4, but right before that it simply crashed when trying to import numpy. So, I'm not sure if it's only Python which is to blame. I'm going to try again with an earlier numpy version.

UPDATE: the error doesn't occur on numpy 1.25.0.

[Ganeshkumhar1]

@nineteendo did you try numpy 1.25.0 on python 3.13.1?
as per numpy dev numpy 2.1.0 is first version to support on python 3.13.1

numpy/numpy#28207 (comment)

[nineteendo]

I only checked if the import succeeded. I tried again by disabling from collections.abc import Buffer, it now starts crashing in de64e75.

[zooba]

I would just note that getpath_realpath only attempts to strip \\?\ from drive paths and doesn't handle \\?\UNC at all:

Yeah, I suspect this is probably it. It changed in #86179, which looks like it only landed in 3.13 but pretty early on. Clearly we don't have any tests for running from UNC mounts.

[Ganeshkumhar1]

@zooba @nineteendo , Is there any workaround I can use to fix this issue without setting PYTHONHOME.

[zooba]

The only other workaround might be setting PYTHONEXECUTABLE to the full path to python.exe, but that may have adverse impact on virtual environments, and it might not even work.

Alternatively, copy Python onto the local machine and use PYTHONPATH to import modules from the network.

If you're building from source, you could add the extra check for \\?\UNC\ into getpath.c and handle it (and submit a PR, which will get it fixed in the next release if nobody else gets to it)