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Summary of Changes

As gemini-code-assist, I've reviewed this pull request. The primary goal, based on the title, appears to be optimizing the execution strategy for the DeepSeek model, specifically by enabling the overlapping of computation kernels (likely within the MLP) with communication operations. This is achieved by adjusting the scheduling of operations within the decode phase for the DeepSeek MoE architecture.

Highlights

  • DeepSeek MoE Optimization: The core change targets the execution strategy for the DeepSeek Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) model during the decode phase.
  • Kernel and Communication Overlap: The modification aims to allow computation kernels (specifically related to MLP operations) to overlap with communication operations, which can improve performance by reducing idle time.
  • Operation Scheduling Adjustment: The change involves adjusting the sequence and placement of YieldOperation calls within the defined operation strategy, altering when the execution flow yields control.

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  • python/sglang/srt/operations_strategy.py
    • Modified the _compute_moe_deepseek_blog_decode function.
    • Moved a operations.YieldOperation() from after layer.op_comm_postprocess_layer (line 132 before change) to after layer.mlp.op_combine_b (line 130 after change).
    • This change alters the yielding points in the DeepSeek MoE decode strategy, facilitating the intended kernel/communication overlap.
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Code Review

This PR modifies the operation staging strategy for DeepSeek model decoding, aiming to improve kernel overlap by adjusting YieldOperation placements. The code change itself is concise and appears to be a targeted optimization.

To help with the review and ensure the quality of this performance-related change, could you please:

  1. Update the PR Description: The current description is a template. Please fill in the "Motivation" and "Modifications" sections to explain the problem this PR solves and how the changes achieve that.
  2. Provide Benchmark Results: Since this is a performance optimization, it's crucial to see benchmark data (throughput/latency) comparing the performance before and after this change. This will help quantify the improvement and ensure no regressions.
  3. Add/Mention Tests: Are there specific unit or integration tests that verify the correctness of this new staging strategy? Given the complexity of operation scheduling, ensuring correctness under various conditions is important.
  4. Checklist: Please update the checklist in the PR description.

Addressing these points will provide more confidence in the effectiveness and correctness of this optimization.

The change itself, which isolates op_combine_b into its own stage, seems plausible for enabling finer-grained pipelining, especially if op_combine_b involves significant communication that can be overlapped. The execute_overlapped_operations logic appears to handle the increased number of stages correctly with the existing tbo_delta_stages=2.

Summary of Findings

  • Rationale and Impact of Staging Change: The PR modifies operation staging in DeepSeek decode. The specific reasons for isolating op_combine_b and the expected performance gains are not detailed. This makes it harder to fully assess the change.
  • Missing Validation and Documentation for Performance Change: The PR lacks a filled description, benchmark results, and information about tests. For a performance-focused change, these are crucial for verifying improvements and correctness.

Merge Readiness

This pull request proposes a change to the operation staging for DeepSeek model decoding, likely for performance optimization. While the code modification is small and seems structurally compatible with the existing overlap mechanism, crucial information is missing to fully assess its impact and correctness. Specifically, the PR description needs to be completed, benchmark results demonstrating the performance improvement should be provided, and details on testing for this new strategy would be beneficial.

Due to the lack of this supporting information for a performance-critical change, I recommend that these aspects be addressed before merging. I am unable to approve PRs directly; further review and approval by maintainers will be necessary once these points are clarified.

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layer.mlp.op_combine_b,
operations.YieldOperation(),
layer.mlp.op_output,
layer.op_comm_postprocess_layer,
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This change refines the operation staging for the DeepSeek decode path:

  • A YieldOperation is introduced after layer.mlp.op_combine_b.
  • The final YieldOperation after layer.op_comm_postprocess_layer is removed.

This effectively isolates op_combine_b into its own stage and groups op_output with op_comm_postprocess_layer in the new final stage. The total number of stages for decode operations increases from 5 to 6.

Could you provide more details on the specific kernels being overlapped and the expected performance benefits from this new staging? For instance, is op_combine_b (which involves deepep_dispatcher.combine_b) a communication-heavy step where yielding immediately after offers significant overlap opportunities with other batch processing?

Understanding the rationale will help in assessing the impact, especially since tbo_delta_stages remains 2.

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LGTM

@zhyncs zhyncs merged commit 4839999 into sgl-project:main May 28, 2025
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Merge branch 'sgl_20250610_sync_tag047 of [email protected]:Theta/SGLang.git into main

https://code.alipay.com/Theta/SGLang/pull_requests/52


Reviewed-by: 剑川 <[email protected]>


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* [Bugfix] Fix ChatCompletion endpoint of mini_lb when stream is set (sgl-project#6703)
* [CI] Fix setup of disaggregation with different tp (sgl-project#6706)
* [PD] Remove Unnecessary Exception Handling for FastQueue.get() (sgl-project#6712)
* Fuse routed_scaling_factor in DeepSeek (sgl-project#6710)
* Overlap two kernels in DeepSeek with communication (sgl-project#6711)
* Minor refactor two-batch overlap (sgl-project#6682)
* Speed up when having padding tokens two-batch overlap (sgl-project#6668)
* [Feature] Support Flashinfer fp8 blockwise GEMM kernel on Blackwell (sgl-project#6479)
* Fix LoRA bench (sgl-project#6719)
* temp
* Fix PP for Qwen3 MoE (sgl-project#6709)
* [feat] triton kernel for get_last_loc (sgl-project#6676)
* [fix] more mem for draft_extend cuda_graph (sgl-project#6726)
* [PD] bug fix:  Update status if nixl receiver send a a dummy req. (sgl-project#6720)
* Tune memory arguments on B200 (sgl-project#6718)
* Add DeepSeek-R1-0528 function call chat template (sgl-project#6725)
* refactor(tool call): Fix BaseFormatDetector tool_index issue and refactor `parse_streaming_increment` (sgl-project#6715)
* Add draft extend CUDA graph for Triton backend (sgl-project#6705)
* refactor apply_w8a8_block_fp8_linear in fp (sgl-project#6545)
* [PD] Support completion endpoint (sgl-project#6729)
* PD Rust LB (PO2) (sgl-project#6437)
* Super tiny enable sole usage of expert distribution metrics and update doc (sgl-project#6680)
* Support picking variants of EPLB algorithms (sgl-project#6728)
* Support tuning DeepEP configs (sgl-project#6742)
* [test] add ut and bm for get_last_loc (sgl-project#6746)
* Fix mem_fraction_static for AMD CI (sgl-project#6748)
* [fix][RL] Fix DeepSeekV3ForCausalLM.post_load_weights for multiple update weight (sgl-project#6265)
* Improve EPLB logical to physical dispatch map (sgl-project#6727)
* Update DeepSeek-R1-0528 function call chat template (sgl-project#6765)
* [PD] Optimize time out logic and add env var doc for mooncake (sgl-project#6761)
* Fix aiohttp 'Chunk too big' in bench_serving (sgl-project#6737)
* Support sliding window in triton backend (sgl-project#6509)
* Fix shared experts fusion error (sgl-project#6289)
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* update llama4 chat template and pythonic parser (sgl-project#6679)
* feat(tool call): Enhance Llama32Detector for improved JSON parsing in non-stream (sgl-project#6784)
* Support token-level quantization for EP MoE (sgl-project#6782)
* Temporarily lower mmlu threshold for triton sliding window backend (sgl-project#6785)
* ci: relax test_function_call_required (sgl-project#6786)
* Add intel_amx backend for Radix Attention for CPU (sgl-project#6408)
* Fix incorrect LoRA weight loading for fused gate_up_proj (sgl-project#6734)
* fix(PD-disaggregation): Can not get local ip (sgl-project#6792)
* [FIX] mmmu bench serving result display error (sgl-project#6525) (sgl-project#6791)
* Bump torch to 2.7.0 (sgl-project#6788)
* chore: bump sgl-kernel v0.1.5 (sgl-project#6794)
* Improve profiler and integrate profiler in bench_one_batch_server (sgl-project#6787)
* chore: upgrade sgl-kernel v0.1.5 (sgl-project#6795)
* [Minor] Always append newline after image token when parsing chat message (sgl-project#6797)
* Update CI tests for Llama4 models (sgl-project#6421)
* [Feat] Enable PDL automatically on Hopper architecture (sgl-project#5981)
* chore: update blackwell docker (sgl-project#6800)
* misc: cache is_hopper_arch (sgl-project#6799)
* Remove contiguous before Flashinfer groupwise fp8 gemm (sgl-project#6804)
* Correctly abort the failed grammar requests & Improve the handling of abort (sgl-project#6803)
* [EP] Add cuda kernel for moe_ep_pre_reorder (sgl-project#6699)
* Add draft extend CUDA graph for flashinfer backend  (sgl-project#6805)
* Refactor CustomOp to avoid confusing bugs (sgl-project#5382)
* Tiny log prefill time (sgl-project#6780)
* Tiny fix EPLB assertion about rebalancing period and recorder window size (sgl-project#6813)
* Add simple utility to dump tensors for debugging (sgl-project#6815)
* Fix profiles do not have consistent names (sgl-project#6811)
* Speed up rebalancing when using non-static dispatch algorithms (sgl-project#6812)
* [1/2] Add Kernel support for Cutlass based Fused FP4 MoE (sgl-project#6093)
* [Router] Fix k8s Service Discovery (sgl-project#6766)
* Add CPU optimized kernels for topk and rope fusions  (sgl-project#6456)
* fix new_page_count_next_decode (sgl-project#6671)
* Fix wrong weight reference in dynamic EPLB (sgl-project#6818)
* Minor add metrics to expert location updater (sgl-project#6816)
* [Refactor] Rename `n_share_experts_fusion` as `num_fused_shared_experts` (sgl-project#6735)
* [FEAT] Add transformers backend support  (sgl-project#5929)
* [fix] recover auto-dispatch for rmsnorm and rope (sgl-project#6745)
* fix ep_moe_reorder kernel bugs (sgl-project#6858)
* [Refactor] Multimodal data processing for VLM (sgl-project#6659)
* Decoder-only Scoring API (sgl-project#6460)
* feat: add dp-rank to KV events (sgl-project#6852)
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* Fix one missing arg in DeepEP (sgl-project#6878)
* Support LoRA in TestOpenAIVisionServer and fix fused kv_proj loading bug. (sgl-project#6861)
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* Fix Qwen3MoE missing token padding optimization (sgl-project#6820)
* Tiny update error hints (sgl-project#6846)
* Support layerwise rebalancing experts (sgl-project#6851)
* Tiny allow profiler API to auto create directory (sgl-project#6865)
* Support Blackwell DeepEP docker images (sgl-project#6868)
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* [theta]merge 0605
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* [misc] add is_cpu() (sgl-project#6950)
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* chore: bump sgl-kernel v0.1.6.post1 (sgl-project#6955)
* chore: upgrade sgl-kernel v0.1.6.post1 (sgl-project#6957)
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* Revert "Fuse routed scaling factor in topk_reduce kernel (sgl-project#6220)" (sgl-project#6968)
* [AMD] Add more tests to per-commit-amd (sgl-project#6926)
* chore: bump sgl-kernel v0.1.7 (sgl-project#6963)
* Slightly improve the sampler to skip unnecessary steps (sgl-project#6956)
* rebase h20 fused_moe config (sgl-project#6966)
* Fix CI and triton moe Configs (sgl-project#6974)
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* Fuse routed scaling factor in deepseek (sgl-project#6970)
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* Fix draft extend ut stability with flush cache (sgl-project#6979)
* Fix triton sliding window test case (sgl-project#6981)
* Fix expert distribution dumping causes OOM (sgl-project#6967)
* Minor remove one kernel for DeepSeek (sgl-project#6977)
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* Enable more unit tests for AMD CI. (sgl-project#6983)
* Use torch.compile to fuse flash attention decode metadata preparation (sgl-project#6973)
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* support qwen3 emebedding (sgl-project#6990)
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* chore: upgrade flashinfer v0.2.6.post1 jit (sgl-project#6958)
* cleanup tmp dir (sgl-project#7007)
* chore: update pr test xeon (sgl-project#7008)
* Fix cutlass MLA gets almost zero accuracy (sgl-project#6998)
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* Migrate to assertEqual (sgl-project#6741)
* Fix torch version in blackwell dockerfile (sgl-project#7017)
* chore: update pr test xeon (sgl-project#7018)
* Update default settings for blackwell (sgl-project#7023)
* Support both approximate and exact expert distribution collection (sgl-project#6964)
* Add decode req pool (sgl-project#6980)
* [theta]merge 0610
* [theta]merge 0610
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* Fix fused_moe triton configs (sgl-project#7029)
* CPU: map changes from developing branch in sgl-kernel (sgl-project#6833)
* chore: bump v0.4.7 (sgl-project#7038)
* Update README.md (sgl-project#7040)
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